Club Penguin Wiki:Archive/Forum:ADMINSHIP PROJECT

Template:Maintenance Hello this Tigernose. I am making a forum regarding the current system of electing admins. I have decided that there shall be change. This is one of the main reasons why we had over 110 people in usergroups once. I hope you understand and vote.

User Rights

I am sure you have heard the term user right. There are four user rights:

• Rollback - The ability to quickly undo edits by a user on a page.
• Sysop - The ability to protect pages, delete pages, edit protected pages, to block people and etc.
• Bureaucrat - The ability to give user rights to a person.
• ShoutBox Mod - The ability to control messages in the Shout Box.

I am leaving the latter right out of this, it is new and does not affect my reasons.

When you have a certain user right, you are placed in the corresponding user group. You can be placed in more than one user group. When placed in a user group, you obtain the ability. This is one thing cleared.

User rights are not RANKS. I hate it when people misunderstand the definition of a user right. There is no such thing as promotion. This means, if you are a bureaucrat it does not mean you are a sysop as well. You have to be in both user groups to have both abilities. Many users are considered b-crats, but it doesn't mean they have the same ability as a sysop. You have have both user rights. This is unlike the sysop/rollback user right. If you are a sysop, you do have the ability to rollback people, even if you aren't in both groups. This brings me onto a message to some 'crats out there: when giving a user admin rights, when they already have rollback right - please take away the rollback right as it only gives off server lag.

What we think now, is this: rollback -> sysop -> bureaucrat. This is wrong, there is no such things as ranks, therefore someone can be a 'crat without even being a rollback.

Now that we have understood what user rights are, we need to consider when and why we should give these user rights to someone.

Rollback

User rights are not ranks. This means Rollback isn't the first step up a tree. Subsequently, you can become a sysop without having to be a rollback. Now, rollback rights should be given to a user who is actively involved in removing vandalism. People apply for rollback rights thinking they are a step up there. Except they are not. Edits do not matter with the rollback ability. A rollback can only rollback edits. So, when making applying for rollback, please think: are you going to use this power. You are better off without the power if you are not going to be removing vandalism. This means you can apply to adminship rights, instead of having to be a rollback.

When thinking who to give rollback rights, you must consider how many times they have fought off vandals. Stuff like having an active Vandal Watch, or involved in anti-vandalism projects. These are good factors to consider.

Sysop/Admin

Now, the sysop right a very important right. Yet, we misunderstand that. Giving a user adminship rights on here is the equivalent of giving adminship on a forum. A lot of you, I guess, go on forums. A lot of you, I guess, crave that adminship right. The adminship right is the most important of them all. It is not below the the b-crat rank, because like I said: being a bureaucrat means you can only promote people. Bureaucratship is a minion compared to sysopship.

Firstly, if you want to know - people who are just a sysop are called sysops. People who have both the 'crat and sysop ability are called admins. Admins are usually people who represent the wiki when in contact with Wikia or other wikis. Despite this, admins and sysops have the same ability.

We have cleared the fact that user rights are not ranks. This brings us onto the next matter of why someone should be a sysop.